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Of course if we do take the first choice I anticipate that we will see a great reduction in the surplus population.
2009/06/24/little-tombstones.aspx
— Wonks AnonymousWhen I came from Europe to live in the USA in the 1980′s, I found healthcare to be comparable in quality but much more expensive. Today, the quality has badly degraded, with countless bureaucratic and accounting hurdles, and the costs have skyrocketed.
Congress, thanks goodness, has realized that there is a healthcare crisis. The big question is why they don’t hurry to carbon-copy what works in countries similar to the USA. Isn’t this the American way, imitate others when they do something better than us?
Or does Congress have a problem with the idea that the U.S. government exists to provide public service?
Love,
— Dan NoelThere seems to me to be an issue that is always left out in any comparison of the relative spending on health care and the quality of the outcomes between the U.S. and other countries: the underlying health habits of the population.
It is my belief that the American emphasis on personal freedom leads to poorer health habits among a sizable portion of our population than in other of the leading industrialized nations. Many of us eat too much, eat the wrong foods, are not sufficiently physically active (because we drive everywhere’and sit parked in front of the TV or computer for a large portion of the day), sleep too little, abuse drugs, settle too many arguments with guns, etc.
With such poor personal health habits, no wonder we end up paying more for health care but have poorer outcomes. If we really wanted to cut medical costs in this country, we would try to make people take more responsibility for their own health and not expect a medical solution to the problems we have brought on, or at least aggravated, by our own behavior.
— CEMLike Lynne, I believe the gap between the US’ line and everyone else’s lines is largely health insurance profits, and probably a little bit of malpractice insurance too.
— DCX2Rant follows: O.K. I’ve looked at the graphs with all the pretty squiggles. I read all the comments. So will someone please tell me why the (expletive) hell HR676 is dying in committee? Why we all aren’t screaming at our Representatives and Senators? (I just got off the phone with the health care LA for my “liberal” Congressman. It was like punching (expletive) cotton candy). Explain to me Ms Rampell why these facts are buried in some (expletive) blog that probably never appears in the print editions? Why hasn’t the (expletive) Times had some analysis of the basic facts? Why not a series comparing our health care with those of other countries–France, England, Switzerland, even the (expletive) UAE? How about an article on the Medical Loss Ratios of the big insurers? Let’s have one on physician and patient compliance costs! What about (expletive) drug companies (expletive) marketing? Why does your editorial board have to screw up its collective face and take a deep breadth to support a public (expletive) option which will not pick up the half trillion a year savings from the elimination of for (expletive) profit making insurers? This is just what we need–another (expletive) pool of high risk individuals–the poor and the sick.
Well, I’m 70; I won’t be around to what a (expletive) mess this country is rushing toward just to make a bunch of already rich (expletive) bastards richer.
— Leonard CharlapI would love to see the same chart constructed for education spending — any chance you could put that together?
— Catherine JohnsonNumber 14 is absolutely correct!! Why doesn’t the NYT publish articles explaining why we must have single payer universal health care in the US??
Almost everyone of these comments is worth a page. No wonder newspapers are dying! Do something!!
Come on, tell us!!
— William Leslie FellBeing 79 with lots of aches & pains, medicare has saved my life over & over again in the last 15 years. But I am riddled with guilt, despair, and anger for those under 65 who can’t have this human right!!
— Richard ConnIn the above short article Catherine Rampell provided some excellent graphical data. Here is the same graphical data provided for only two countries: the USA and Canada. pages/Canada_vs_United_States_Spending#graph
The difference for this additional graph is that it notes on the graph the answer to the dual questions of why is that the U.S. “broke from the pack” and other countries stayed more in control of costs. Take a look at why Canada’s costs stayed under control: it finished its implementation of its national health insurance. Take a look at why the U.S. costs skyrocketed: the private health insurance companies and the associated so-called “managed care” approach with HMO’s and so on. LESS freedom for the patients and MORE profits for the companies.
- Bob the Health and Health Care Advocate
— Bob HaiducekNumber 16, I can tell you why the media does not educate Americans about single payer national health insurance. The media receives advertising dollars from the pharmaceutical companies and the health insurance companies, which are currently reported to be spending an average of $1.4 million dollars every day in the continuing “education” (translation: propaganda) of Americans to fear national health insurance. While Americans have been taught to fear it, other free-market countries have implemented it.
pages/World_View#worldactivity
– Bob the Health and Health Care Advocate
— Bob HaiducekI get angry every time I see a stupid Viagra or Cialis commercial pushing expensive drugs that don’t save lives and only the privileged can afford anyway.
— PaulI know I have a very pessimistic view but I believe that what it comes down to, in the U.S., is that people’s health is not as important as money. In other regions of the world, people do not understand how we Americans can allow medical bills to bankrupt our fellow Americans. And, Bob, I agree with your assessment of the media, unfortunately.
— Jenamazing how some read this and find weak excuses.
no, not going to quibble over percentages because those are a lot less benign than showing that we spend more on health care than all of gpd of many those regions combined.
— mikeVAThe U.S. ranking of 1st in cost for health care and near the top of developed countries in infant mortality and near the bottom in life-span or longevity speak for themselves.
— denniscav